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Who wants to talk about Jesus christ. (by lovablesweetyy)

 lovablesweetyy (6)       (37 / M-F / Nigeria)
19-Sep-12 9:04 pm
is there some facts u don't understand in bible and in christianity. i am here to help. i will answer every of your questions through christ who strenghtens me.

 

 

 
 
 4everteh1 (8)    (35 / M-F / Pennsylvania)
19-Sep-12 9:09 pm
You opened this can
of worms remember that.

why is it that. To everyone who belieaves in god. There surefire clause always "he is the alpha and the omega always has been and always will be". How could there be something before there was nothing? In the bible it talks about the end of days. The bible talks about literally every possibilty of a natural disaster. However its vague. Thus letting us speculate. Now why is that? (i am NOT trying to test your faith. If it feels like that please ignore this post)

 

 

 
 
 pureromance1976 
19-Sep-12 9:11 pm
I know jesus christ was the first pagan before he came from mary's womb.

 

 

 
 
 lovablesweetyy (6)       (37 / M-F / Nigeria)
19-Sep-12 9:43 pm
@4everteh1: Why Does God Allow People To Suffer?
The Bible tells us in Revelation 21:4 that there is coming a time when all sorrow, tears, pain and death will pass away. There's coming a wonderful day when God will wipe away all tears from the eyes of His children, and our sorrow will end forever. Dear reader, I hope you are a Christian, so you too may claim this blessed promise that God has made to those who have come to know Him through His beloved Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. There's a great day coming for those who have been saved by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.


However, for this present time, we must face the undeniable fact that people do suffer. That's a fact of life. You can find sickness, sorrow, and suffering in all walks of life. It's everywhere you look. This very moment you can probably think of someone very close to you who is suffering greatly, and it just doesn't seem fair. Why does God allow it to happen? Does God even care? If God is so good and holy, then why doesn't He put an end to all suffering and pain? Keep reading, for there is a reason.


The Beginning of Suffering and Sorrow

There was a time on this earth when suffering and sorrow did not exist. When God first created man upon the earth, everything was perfect. There was no sickness, no pain, no sorrow of any kind. It was God's plan for man to live in peace and harmony never having to experience sorrow. According to Genesis chapter three, it wasn't until man chose the way of Satan, rather than the way of God, that sorrow entered the world. Man sins against God in Genesis 3:6-7, and God reveals to Adam and Eve the consequences of sin in Genesis 3:16-19. God told Adam and Eve that they would now experience SORROW and DEATH. Therefore, the suffering and sorrow that you and I face today is not the work of an unjust God; it's the consequences of sin. We suffer because we are sinners. Romans 6:23 says, "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Friend, we suffer and die because of SIN.

You say, "I didn't do anything wrong. Why am I a sinner?" We are all born with a sin nature. We inherited our fallen sin nature from Adam and Eve. Romans 5:12 says, "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" We read in Romans 3:23 that ALL HAVE SINNED and come short of the glory of God. Why do we suffer? We suffer because we are sinners by nature.


Some People Suffer for the Salvation of Lost Souls

Perhaps you are thinking, "Well, what's the point? What does God accomplish by allowing us to suffer?" Very simple: He's trying to tell us something. By allowing people to suffer, God is showing us that SOMETHING IS WRONG. If everything were alright between man and God, then there would be no sorrow and death, because in the beginning there was none. God is showing you every day of your life that man has been SEPARATED from Him because of sin, and that man is destined to an eternity in Hell Fire unless he comes to God for help. The fact that God allows suffering and agony today proves that He will allow it in eternity as well.

God doesn't ENJOY seeing anyone suffer, but He does ALLOW people to suffer for various reasons. If you've never received the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior, then God wants you to see your need to do so. Sometimes God has to allow tragedy to enter a life in order to get someone to look to Him for Salvation. As someone has said, "Some people won't look up to God until He puts them on their back." This is sad, but true. There are many people who would still be lost in their sins if God had not brought some tragedy into their life to get their attention.

Do you suppose the leper of Matthew 8:2 would have came to Jesus if he'd been in perfect health? What about the blind man of Luke 18:35? II Kings chapter five tells the story of Naman, the Syrian captain who had leprosy. Had this man not had leprosy, he would never have turned to God. The Bible is filled with cases where God reaches people through suffering. Nebuchadnezzar didn't fear God until God humbled him by making his spend seven years of his life on his hands and knees like an animal (Dan. 4:30-37).

Sometimes He will even use the tragedy of one to bring OTHERS to Christ. Such is the case with Lazarus in John chapter eleven. Lazarus was very sick, but before he ever died Jesus said that his sickness was "for the glory of God" (Jn. 11:2-4). Later, in John 11:45, we read that ". . . . many of the Jews which came to Mary, and had seen the things which Jesus did, believed on him." We also read in John 12:11 that many believed on the Lord Jesus Christ BECAUSE OF LAZARUS. Had Lazarus not suffered and died, these people may never have come to know the Lord Jesus Christ. You see, God was in complete control. Jesus KNEW that Lazarus was sick, but He chose not to go and heal him (Jn. 11:6). He had a REASON for the sorrow and death in the family of Lazarus. No one suffers in vain. God always has a reason, and sometimes He is trying to show someone their need to receive the Lord Jesus Christ. Could this be true in your own life? Think about it. Could the Lord be convicting you of the fact that you are a sinner, and you need to be saved?

 

 

 
 
 lovablesweetyy (6)       (37 / M-F / Nigeria)
19-Sep-12 10:07 pm
@pureromance1976: i am talking about Jesus Christ the son of God. he is not a pagan. i say what i know. because the bible says Do not alter (delete or add to) God's Word

"You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you." Deuteronomy 4:2

 

 

 
 
 4everteh1 (8)    (35 / M-F / Pennsylvania)
19-Sep-12 11:12 pm
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit a freaking second. Ok so god just let lazerus die. To prove a point more or less right? Isent one of the commandments "love thy neighbor"? To show compassion? He had the ability to help the man yet dident to satisfy his own ego. (prove a point) would that not be considerd a sin in itself? Allowing that man to die? Yet it is said that god is unblameable? Yet another clause. Another flaw that he existed.

 

 

 
 
 spacer 
19-Sep-12 11:46 pm
In my humble opinion jesus christ was a fraud and so was mohammad and every other so called prophet . But if believing in jesus or mohammad or whoever brings you comfort and strenght in times of hardship and grief well then that can not be a bad thing so believe what you believe cuz whats the harm in having fait in a higher being if it helps you through tough times ? . The unfortunate reality is though that millions of people have been massacred through the the centuries all in the name of god And religion or one prophet or another so in the grand scheme of things in the bigger picture religion is a bad thing

 

 

 
 
 TheyCallMeMrRam318 
20-Sep-12 12:06 am
@spacer: Religion has done far more good than bad. U only focus on the bad. Untold numbers have been fed, housed, clothed, and cured of disease by religious sponsored hospitals and other organizations. Ur so typical of someone against any form of religion...only looking at the minuscule amount of bad, and not the multitude of good.

 

 



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 TalkingDollKait 
20-Sep-12 12:09 am
@spacer: Religion has done far more good than bad. U only focus on the bad. Untold numbers have been fed, housed, clothed, and cured of disease by religious sponsored hospitals and other organizations. Ur so typical of someone against any form of religion...only looking at the minuscule amount of bad, and not the multitude of good.
Agree, very well said.

 

 

 
 
 spacer 
20-Sep-12 12:26 am
@TheyCallMeMrRam318: no ram your sorely mistaken . I did state that if by believing in god or jesus or whoever brings you strenght through hard times well that can only be a good thing . And yes you are correct religious orders have done a tremendous amount of good work in helping the needy and poor and the like . But in my opinion people should be helping other people anyway because its the right thing to do and should have nothing to do with god . So the point im making is if you weigh up the good that religion has done which i concede is plenty and the bad through genocide to pedo priests to suicide bombers in your own country no less well then in the grand scheme of things the bad that religion has brought to the world far out weighs the good . But like i said if by believing in jesus and god makes you a better person just by believing then good for you but me personally i choose to be a good person because its the right thing to do and not because of god or any other supernatural being

 

 



Last edited by spacer; 20-Sep-12 12:29 am.
 
 
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