@Xxxdonna1: empires fell, but you can still visit greece and persia. In scotland and sweden you can find descendents of the vikings and even in america you can gamble on it's previous owners casinos. The mayans are extinct. I'd say that says alot about how smart they were

@ScottishBlood: i thought that verse referred to the rapture (which for all we know may have already happened an jimmy hoffa was the only one chosen that day) and not the end? I know that's extreme but y'all get the point right? And the thousand year reign? Picture god coming with all his dj equipment to throw the best party ever to find it all gone? Either we believe or we don't, i'll be standing with mishack shadrack and abednego not worrying about the what if's...

@ScottishBlood: just my thinking but the earth may not be destroyed but any way you look at it it is the end of something. It is truly the end of the mayan world. I dont think it will be the end like boom. They also said that the sun would be devoured by a great black wolf... On 122112 our solar system starts to move through the wolf nebula. But like i said just a thought

Read somewhere that the Mayans got it all wrong bcuz the calendar they used to figure this sh*t up didn't take into acct Leap year. Shuda happened abt a year ago if they wudve did that

@Ram318: that very well maybe but not only is leap year a modern concept but we dont even use anything close to the calander the mayans did. The calandar we use now is a roman invention

@mikeyboomboom2136: Yea idk, it was jus sumthin I read or saw on tv a few months ago. Rackn my brain now tryin to figure out jus where exactly I saw it. Getn old I suppose lol

@Ram318: its all good bubba! I enjoy a good debate as long as it can stay peaceful! And also just a thought... There have been 500 leap years since the proficy was said.

THe end of the world isnt coming Dec 21, 2012 the end of this era is...we are currently in the information age and it end 12-21-12 like stone age, ice age, etc. Its the end of an era, not the world

@ScottishBlood: first of all this is an interesting topic however i dnt believe in da mayan calendar i believe in da bible. if men said it i dnt believe it if God said it dnt matter if i believe it or not it will come to pass

My thoughts on 12/21/12? Even thought the Mayan calendar did, in fact, stop on December 21st, 2012, I think the whole "end of the world" thing is scare tactics to increase sales of certain items, just like the whole Y2K thing. If you account for Leap Years (which were started by Caesar in Ancient Rome), today would be sometime in September 2013 by now. Nothing catastrophic is going to happen on December 21st.