@Singhpk [QUTOE]How ridiculous is that !! Dont tell me that holey quraan did tell you guys how to make a nuke , 1400 yrs ago . I have read holey quran , and i dont think its anything special [/QUOTE]

You are not getting my simple point,bro! what I m trying to say is that these are the clear sign from god which prove it's existence.
You said about nuke!!! So yes Allah gives man the knowledge but the same time Allah clears what is wrong and what is right. e.g you can make technology for human betterment or you can use it for it's destruction every one is responsible for it's deeds and will be answerable for it's acts. For instance you have a pistol you can use it for your safety as well as you can use it for robbery or other wrong doing.
Quan is the book of guidance not the book of nuclear technology that it shows you how to make nulear bomb. The verses about science are for our guidance to know Allah.
This (Qur'an)is enlightenment for mankind and guidance and mercy for a people who are certain (in faith) Quran 45:20

So if not man who wrote those books , who were then ? Are God(s) handed them out to people ? With so many translations of Holy books depending of the Religion / cults then I personally believe those are man made .

Care to show me proof that those aren't written by human being ?

@Rainbowbutterfly1: I don't know abt other books but their is only one Quran all over the world.million of people have memorized it and when ever you visit any Muslim country and ask them to recite it you'll find it the same. There would be no differece even a single word.
You asked me about proof, So that I have already presented if you read this thread with little concentration .

^ nokiaclassic : if Quran has no translation , what language & text are it using? How those Muslims from different countries understand fully the scriptures ?

Ok, speaking of memorization & recitation, if you guys are religiously doing it, is understanding the scriptures included?

I believe that Quran was written by a man (male) because more if not most of the teachings are in favor for men while women are considered as 2nd class being , why is that?

@Rainbowbutterfly1: bang on sis , great observation ,, i absolutely agree with you that all the scriptures of the world wore written by males and represent a male world view . They want to create a order which is perfect from a mans point of view ,, no wonder many orthodox societies still treat women as something less then human .

@Rainbowbutterfly:
Ist You asked about Quran language

So,without being disrespectful, that other scriptures have suffered much loss and alteration in the course of history. Their original languages have died out, so that only a few specialist scholars have the knowledge to study the text directly, and even they are unsure of the meanings of many words in the translations they have produced. The origin and history of these scriptures is largely unknown, and no reliable information is available about their authors or persons to whom they were revealed.
The Holy Quran is still available to us today in the original language in which it was revealed.
Arabic, the language of the Holy Quran, is still a living language spoken and written by over 100 million people, *Therefore, any person today can learn it like any other modern language, and read and understand the Holy Quran directly.

2nd you asked about status of women

*And said Islam treat women as a 2nd class if you read Islam from authentic sources ( not biased or anti Islamic) you will fully understand *what is Islam all about. I m not going in detail but I'll give u only one simple example, there are *research and survey reports from a reliable western media, which says every year more than 5000 Britons *converts to Islam and "most of them are women" If Islam really give women a 2nd class status so then how it is happen in Uk such an advanced and civilized country??????
The proof is below...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...h-2175178.html

@Singhpk: that's how I understand bro .. Of course the authors made sure they will be benefited from their " hardwork "..

@nokiaclassic:

So you are saying, the Holy Quran has no translation ? If I am a Filipinomuslim living in the Philippines , the Quran is still in Arabic ? Arabic can be learned but not everybody knows how to read & write . How illiterate muslim can memorize & recite the scriptures ?

About the women Q.. You didn't respond me directly so please allow me to ask you these :

1. Why Muslim men are allowed to have many wives yet women must wear burqa & must stay away / isolate from men if possible . Do you think its fair ?

2. Why muslim women are subject for honor killing while men are not ? Do you think it isnt a manifestation that women are treated differently ?

3. Why women must undergo genetal mutilation ? To make his man happy & secure ? Deprivation of education .
Do you think its not considered that them are getting 2nd class treatment ?

R u study islam???

@Rainbowbutterfly1: sis I'll give u answer!!! but first you give me answer why Islam is the fastest growing religion of the world??? If it is bad as you think and why most women converts to Islam today???? if it is such as brutal as you think...
You will get all your answer if you throw all the negative and mis conception of islam from ur mind and study it by yourself not from biased and anti Islamic sources. There are so many good Islamic sites on the net. And I can help u if u really want to know Islam...