@TenFour: then the problem not only lies with trolls / trouble makers . The problem also is how sensitive other members are and the inability to control their feelings .

@Rainbowbutterfly1: Well I have never been talked to on here like a few others have, so I don't really know how I would react.

Somebody is always going to respond to the trolls....perhaps certain long term members need reminded of thier own responses to threads they don't like. I believe that the particular threads we have been dealing with by alters are not good for the community health of these forums. I especially like your responses John. I'm not sure what solution is best but anyone with an ounce of reasoning can see that some solution is called for. I hope that despite those just replying to perpetuate drama those that genuinely want better among us say something that can help Andres come up with a workable solution.

Im not reading.. Taking blame away from trolls, & blame other users. Im reading... We have to be responsible fot our own actions & inactions.( Because that is all we can control) And im also reading... Why feed the beast ? Unless, we end up feeding ourselves.. This is what I see 3 or more saying here.

This is all Im tryin to say with this thread

i see blame others besides the trolls....and since walks used the thread he did I will continue using it as an example...I had had very little contact with the OP of that thread and certainly nothing that cld be considered 'feeding' the trolls. So personally I am reading ppl saying that it was MY fault I sign on to a thread naming and trashing me...the point y'all are missing is that there is no rhyme or reason with the recent alter/trolls so placing the blame squarely on the Trolls and looking for a solution to stop them seems reasonable to me...

@LaDawn: No one is blaming you. In my mind you were unjustly attacked yesterday. And im angry that anyone would refer to you as raciest.. Everyone on this thread desperately wants to stop trolls & consider the newcommer. And all of us want a solution.

@Zilya777: Maybe there isnt one...but at least we are talking abt it :-)

thanks Zilya! And seriously that idiot gets no emotional response from me at all. But the fact that someone comes on with a throwaway profile JUST to trash me under a name I haven't used in quite sometime then immediately deleted just spotlights that we have an alter problem that goes way beyond your run of the mill troll. I sincerely hope Andres figures out a way to fix it. Thanks for all y'all giving genuine thought to a possible solution. I for one really appreciate it.

@LaDawn: To me..these "throw away trolls "are just that. To delete, come back poseing as whatever, to attack a woman for senseless sh*t... Is just that. ...to attack a woman, for the sake of the attack, in hopes of getting away with it.. * I have to hold my self down, w/ those acts of SADISM. * A spade is a spade a troll is a troll. Hell... Your more Liberal than I am ...lol . Ok, back to buisness , I took another death breath. :)